>> Hello and thanks for joining us on Chicago tonight.

I'm Brandis Friedman.

Here's what we're looking at.

Local members of Congress on the impact of the partial government shutdown and calls to reform immigration enforcement agencies.

>> There's no such thing as absolutely unity in America.

>> Mayor Johnson signs an executive order in an effort to hold federal immigration agents accountable for misconduct.

And new plans to investigate whether Chicago police officers violated city law by helping agents during immigration raids and protests.

>> First off tonight, though, it's deja vu in Washington, D.C., as partial government shutdown is underway.

>> Over the weekend, senators passed a plan to fund some departments through the end of September except for the Department of Homeland Security.

Instead, DHS would be funded for just 2 weeks as Democrats demand changes to immigration enforcement in the wake of the shooting deaths of Alex Pretty.

And Renee Nicole, good at the hands of federal agents in Minneapolis.

The measure now heads to the House.

Joining us here via Zoom are Illinois Congressman Danny Davis, a Democrat representing parts of the city's south and west sides.

He's not seeking reelection after this term.

And Illinois Congressman Jonathan Jackson, a Democrat representing parts of Chicago's South side and south suburbs.

He is running uncontested in the Democratic primary election next month.

We should mention we did invite Republicans from the Illinois delegation, but they did not respond.

Gentleman, welcome back.

Thanks to the 2 of you for joining us.

>> Thank thank Thank you very much.

>> Congressman Jackson, I want to start with you Heist.

House Speaker Mike Johnson says that he is sure that the House will pass a spending measure that was passed in the Senate last week that the House will pass that sometime tomorrow is the right.

>> I don't know your.

We are talking about this in real time.

As you see the buzzer going off in the background, we're going to go over to a vote in the 5 minutes and soon as we finish with you from the next 10 minutes.

And there are Democrats of concerns about this bill starting with a colossal bill.

You've got TSA workers in the air.

You've got good.

You've got FEMA.

So even as they pulled the DHS, which has most of the ice funding there are these other agencies that are in there.

So we're going to continue to try to make sure that this is just to deal with the ice on the killing of American citizens.

That has to stop.

>> Congressman Davis has your colleague just said, you know, this is just a partial shutdown for now.

But once again, air traffic controllers, they are working without pay.

There's money also being held up for education, labor, health and human services, different buckets of funding there.

What do you say to voters in your if this should go on, if this partial shutdown should go on for longer.

>> what we're saying is put we've spent a long time ago and that is Republicans don't know how to manage.

I mean, even though there's disagreement.

With issues just that ship and he's good go.

That And when you don't know what you're going to be voting >> It's good for good to know.

We knew going to do it.

And Joe, it's clear that the Republican administration in the House is about India.

And can be Democrat put down.

But it's cold from and the problem line me, we're not going to tolerate Trump to that are being committed.

That added to leadership.

we just will not tolerate it without some changes.

We need those changes before we're going to be willing to vote.

But you make sure that the government is functioning because didn't hear >> Okay.

So let's talk about that.

The praline as you as you referred to congressman, the Senate measure funding DHS for 2 weeks in order to negotiate reining in ICE.

Congressman Jackson, is that enough time to negotiate the measures you all would like to see that you think the Republicans will play ball on?

>> No.

And let me tell you, and with the level respect his dad, people are dying.

There's issue Mr.

Porter in Los Angeles, an African-American man there was shooting is going off outside during Eve.

He was shot by an off-duty ICE agent and that officers never been charged.

They are making big giving an excuse 2 federal officials to kill people in states that illegal.

So we time our rating they should have state investigations in the state of Minnesota.

The state been truck looted from gathering evidence.

They moved the body remove the bullets, removed the crime scene, Mr.

Prodi's my case, the removed the crime scene turn video footage in the issue been a good and that's just something awful.

Each state has the right and the authority and the means by which to investigate local murders, local crimes.

So this extra judicial missed extra paramilitary forces, incoming into into Belize and killing people were saying stop.

So I will be a vote of no.

We will need another 2 weeks.

We don't need see another person killed with this lawless behavior from the ICE agents.

>> Congressman Davis, there's late reporting today that Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem says that body-worn cameras, they are being rolled out immediately to the federal immigration agents there in Minneapolis.

we know that body cams were among the criteria that Democrats were hoping for.

In addition to unmasking, those agents the cameras.

Is that a step in the right direction?

Does that make some progress?

Is that enough?

>> You know, whatever it is that secretary known he's you have to not only know that it's happening, think that she should really do is resign.

And let somebody with a different approach, different and too a different level.

Of understanding be in charge agency with that intensity.

And with that much I think people in this country confidence secretary known.

And have confidence in ice and thousands and thousands of people Let get rid of ice as and see if it can be reconstituted.

And that's where and what I think we ought to be doing that new year and publish.

>> 2 out to Republican House members, one from Florida and one from Tennessee.

They say that they are they would like to see legislation attached to the funding measure in the House that would prevent non-citizens from voting, which non-citizens already cannot vote.

But this legislation would ensure on folks who register to vote or proven that they are, in fact, citizens they they say that they are willing to hold up passage in the House over this particular bit of legislation.

Do you think that's possible in is that Congressman Jackson is that very is that very different from holding up funding over reining in ICE.

>> Yes, extremely different non U.S.

citizens cannot vote.

So that is a super flu is that is very disingenuous.

And that's a deal point someone's trying to make just to be an obstruction so non citizens cannot vote.

So let's look at the issue, be the issue and the issue is raining in the Temple.

Mount largest military forcing the entire world.

This was funded on the one big beautiful bill as Mr as President Trump described on the 4th of July.

This is not 1 trillion dollars in the Defense Department.

This is not our state or local our but this is not the CIA is not Department of Justice.

This is a domestic military force just for U.S.

citizens.

This has to stop and people are becoming aware with this agency is known that will begin to see abuses.

You don't need to see doors kicked there's supposed to be a judicial warrant, you know, stop people.

People still have the presumption of innocence.

And we also learned that their policing bodies and languages, this is not the gusts topping of Europe.

This reminiscent in this African American History Month.

In the reason people need to our history in America.

This is the slave patrol.

You put Rollie People's language that movement.

This is very American.

And at the same time, it's very American to deny us our constitutional rights of freedom of assembly and freedom of speech.

>> Congressman Davis, there also seems to be a bit of disconnect between some senior Democrats and Democratic leadership.

Is the party united over over this issue and and vote whether or not to vote for this funding measure if it comes to the floor tomorrow.

>> Are you know they're we're going to be a little different.

the Democratic Party Dish Democratic Caucus is so united terms of understanding where we are in this country.

Joe, I find it hard to that we are is United.

And as we are and we know exactly Ford must happen that we are not going to tolerate.

These atrocities and back in form action go along with it We >> How United do you think Republicans are?

Because President Trump is in favor of passing this funding measure.

>> I think the Republican just so not you name it.

And to can't pass a bill and the pool.

They couldn't get appropriations triggering You never know when wind going to be immediate, what we're going to be voting.

No, when so I think they are seriously not unite.

>> Congressman Jackson got about 30 seconds left.

What are you hearing from your constituents about all of this water or folks in your district saying about immigration raids and federal funding.

>> Resounding no on extending the licensing, the power, the funding for ICE, this is abusive.

And everyone knows that this can come to our neighborhood.

Next.

We've seen United States military land.

All right in South Shore.

I mean, violence pass the comet to we approved U.S.

military against U.S.

citizens enough and so no to the funding.

extension of the powers of ICE.

>> All right.

That's where we'll have to leave it.

I know the 2 of you have to get to a vote on the floor.

So thanks to Congressman Danny Davis and Jonathan Jackson for joining us.

>> Thank you very much.

>> Up next, have a Sharon on Mayor Johnson's controversial new executive order.

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>> Brandon Johnson's latest executive order is designed to put federal immigration agents on notice that those responsible for misconduct in Chicago could face prosecution.

Let's listen to what Johnson said Saturday at City Hall.

>> This executive order will make Chicago the first city in the country to set the groundwork to prosecute ICE and Border Patrol agents to permanent missed.

Because we need to send a clear message if the federal government will not hold these role actors accountable, then Chicago will do everything in our power to bring these agents to justice.

>> Or head to Sharon joins us now with more head or what exactly would this executive order do?

Well, it directs members of the Chicago Police Department to document potential cases of misconduct or criminal activity by federal agents and to attempt to identify those federal agents responsible for it.

Now, many of them are wearing masks so that can be difficult.

The mayor's order says that evidence will then be turned over to the Cook County State's attorney who will then decide whether to file church.

So this is the 4th executive order that Johnson has issued, of course, intended to push back against the Trump administration's efforts to deport thousands of undocumented immigrants.

Why did the mayor signed this one at this time?

Well, the mayor's been under intense pressure since the deaths of Renee Good.

And Alex, pretty in Minneapolis in January.

It's hard for state and local law enforcement's to hold federal agents accountable because they enjoy some level of immunity as long as they're acting reasonably in the course of their official duties.

This is the mayor's attempt to crack down on those aggressive raids that swept the city in the fall.

And that many fear will return once the weather breaks in the spring.

This order also, it appears to have widened the breach shot between the mayor and Cook County State's Attorney Eileen O'Neill.

Burke was that well, the mayor said that her office had for a few reviewed this order and signed off on it before it was announced on Saturday.

Her office said that wasn't true and that she was still reviewing it.

Now, a larger issue here is that they're sent to shootings by federal agents in Chicago in recent months.

One killed a man out in Franklin Park, Silvio Villegas Gonzalez and of course, Marimar Muntean as was shot 5 times in Brighton Park in October.

O Neale Burke's office has not brought any charges in those cases.

A source deep frustration for the immigrants rights community.

Johnson says both of those incidents bear further scrutiny know how to rule this order.

Will it would have some teeth or is this, you know, for showmanship so that Mayor Johnson can show that he's doing something?

We'll know more in about a month when CPD is supposed to develop a policy to implement this order.

The terms of the policy that will govern, what officers do will tell us more.

But whether this will really change anything on the ground more to come, of course, had a Sharon.

Thanks so much.

Thanks, Brandis.

And you can read full story on our website.

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>> Council members will soon vote on a proposal that would allow the civilian office of Police accountability to investigate whether Chicago officers have violated the welcoming city ordinance.

Kopas newly appointed chief administrator White told older people last week that her office is prepared to investigate the 40 complaints filed against the Chicago Police Department over its interactions with federal agents since June.

Chicago's welcoming City ordinance prohibits all city employees from helping federal agents enforce immigration laws in nearly all cases.

Joining us with more are the older people behind the new proposal, Jessie Fuentes of the 20th Ward on the city's west side.

And orange.

Andrea Vasquez of the 40th Ward on the city's north side.

He's also the chair of the City Council's committee on Immigrant and Refugee Rights.

We also invited opponents of this proposal, but they either declined or did not respond.

We think the 2 of you for joining us to discuss this.

All the person point as want to come to you first.

Why did you think this ordinance was necessary?

On June 4th.

And last year we had an incident.

Where was the first U.S.

collation of point time.

>> Ice agents sort of escalating in their violence and it's sort of detainment said ISP office with a baby individuals with text messages that they we had all the people in organizes there, mishandled by violence by Border Patrol and ICE agents.

And what we've seen where very characteristics and activities by local law enforcement by providing ICE and border patrol perimeter, working on inside of the ISP office to coordinate how they're getting out of the building with individuals that that they have the team that is the year activity for us that folks are helping coordinate and violating the welcome the city ordinance Chairman Vasquez had a hearing not long after that where I tease office and Copa did not have community who share sticks it was to investigate someone violating the welcoming city OIG.

Obviously Office of Inspector General Copa Civilian Office of Police Accountability.

Correct.

And we wanted to make sure that there's community in the statute.

And so we amended the Copa ordinance so that coca has all the jurisdiction to investigate any violations of the welcoming City act.

At the end of the day, this is about everyone feeling safe.

We want people despite documentation status to be able to call 9-1-1 if they're in danger, if they need support and not worry that local law enforcement is going to be working with federal agents, all the person ask as a welcoming city ordinance was created in 2012, the Copa Copa, the the agency was created in 2017.

>> Why didn't cope already have the authority to investigate this and why?

Why does it need to explicitly be given by ordinance?

Yes, Sir, COVID has some authority.

I think what we're trying to Dana faced with the responsibility to do so.

So COVID, for example.

>> Can take it on itself.

It can read it inspected general or to the Bureau of Internal Affairs.

A TPD, but because there was some ambiguity there.

So who should take it on what ordinance that other person is introduced, clarifies that that way.

And there's less ambiguity and the department is charged with and doing the investigation and Copa out of the 3 bodies in the one to provide the most transparency.

So we look at is how do you clarify language to make sure that we go forward in unprecedented moment and no, how do we hold accountable?

How do we investigate?

How do we know right is and we're wrong is because officers out there would know what the rules are.

So we need a better set.

Those guidelines.

>> police superintendent, Larry Snelling Mayor Brandon Johnson.

They both said that CPD officers have operated in compliance with the welcoming city ordinance all the prison Vasquez.

Do you believe that to be the case?

It might be because they believe that to be true.

But when we look at some of the footage seeing once we push the issue after the hearing, we held.

>> We saw it explicit moments where reliever ship of CPD was talking to ICE agent and telling them where they should move the car to have less people block to come in and parking private areas.

Both the public to date have easier time transporting people, kidnapping them.

As we now know, other places, saw those someone may feel like it to the right thing.

The reason we want to clear investigations in are drafting legislation to make the changes are because it is not up to the officers to decide what right or wrong if the legislative body in it.

So we're doing.

>> All the person point, as you know, are Chicago police officers in sort of a tough spot here, right?

Do they not have, you know, also the responsibility to respond to 9-1-1?

Calls, no matter who makes them at the same time, they have a duty to de-escalate situations when they can argue that we asked a lot of our officers here actually provide safety and security for all residents of the city is no easy task.

Whether it's >> federal enforcement or weather.

It's real concern around gun violence in the city of Chicago.

Rome police officers difficult.

They have the responsibility to make sure that all residents are safe despite documentation status.

And you're right, no matter what the 9-1-1 call is, it is the role of CPD to respond.

It is also the role of responding commanded to assess that situation and make clear to his local officers.

What are the next steps going to keep those residents safe in the June 4th?

And it was the responsibility of the commanding officer to make a decision on how CPD was going coordinate itself that day.

It is the commanding officer that nice make decisions, whether not law enforcement going to put themselves in a position in which they are engaging with ICE officers and supporting their enforcement in our city.

And so this statute is very clear if there is any gray area, if there is question, if there's a violation of the welcoming city ordinance, Copa is to investigate That is not to say that every single complaint that comes in is going to be ruled that there was a violation.

But there needs to be a mechanism in which we are investigating those actions so that anyone who is violating the welcoming city ordinance can be held accountable.

Okay.

So the 3 alders who voted against the promote proposal in committee last week, one of them is all the person Apollo Town who said, quote, >> I have never supported the welcoming city ordinance.

And I continue to question legality of any municipal policy that attempts to supersede or conflict with federal law.

It goes on to say rather than addressing the root problems created by flawed policy decisions.

This measure shifts focus toward policing our police officers.

All Vasquez.

What do you make of that?

should the city be doing?

More to address the challenges that come with or what it means to be a welcoming city versus focusing on the prosecution of police officers.

I think where we would find some level agreement with other person.

Pautado is we are seeking to address gaps that the federal government is not addressed.

And I would say for over 30 years.

>> Immigration law does not.

It's not the same lot, depending who's coming into the country.

So what we're doing now is understanding in world.

We're living in watching what happened in Minneapolis, where it's unconstitutional, far as what they're going to want to talk about real a lot.

Let's look at all of it.

What we're doing in the city as a municipality is working within our confines of what we can do legislatively to make sure that we're holding officers accountable.

And I was seen as for our colleagues.

For the officers, they are doing what they believe to be right If they do know what the rules are, we don't have order so being able to track the legislation.

It clarifies that also helps offices that are trying to do their best in the situation.

Do the right thing.

That's not being punitive.

That being clear.

It is more of that legislation.

Is there an ordinance coming that does that that delineates, you know, specifically what police officers can and cannot do that would be deemed in support immigration, their number of things, right?

So that the signed executive order this weekend raking would allow for >> officers to know what to do in these instances as far as documenting making sure we have recorded evidence that may be turning the state attorney's office to follow through on.

>> But we also legislation where we just want more reporting more transparency as any time TPD is interacting with ice.

We don't get enough of that now wishing force it through the committee to hear more.

We should make part of municipal code every kind of the air action we get that visibility so we can find what other challenges we need to address the council.

>> All different as we've got about 30 seconds left.

If this amendment has passed full City Council on has cope a given you any idea of how soon we might start to see investigations of those 40 cases that she reports her office has received.

Yeah, absolutely.

So some of the cases have already been referred out and where they refer to those bodies not have jurisdiction to investigate those any cases.

They are still in the jurisdiction of Copa will be investigated immediately.

So chief is prepared to take on those cases.

And so we should hear within a couple of days what they believe, you know, is wrong doing or not in these cases, we would add also for members of the public who have witnessed anything, it might be an interaction.

They want make complaints about.

>> If the city website to do it, they can also to welcome the Chicago DOT org to submit any complaints, though, to get right to the right departments to make sure the city can further investigate and hold people accountable, OK, we'll have to leave it there.

And it sounds like more to come.

Obviously, all the people just a point as 100 Vasquez.

Thank you both.

Thank you.

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